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city of London, without håving very serious mis
givings on the subject, at all events to the extent
of questioning.whether they, as representatives of
the people, would he justiflecl, if they were now
called upon for a final judgment, to pay the very
high price that it was proposed to give for this
property. He believed 4,000,000?. was the sum
the Chancellor of the Exchequer had adverted to
on a former occasion as likely to he required.
The Chancellor of the Exchequer. — What I
said was this—that I did not think it for the
public advantage that I should name the pre
cise sum, but I thought it would not be beyond
4,000,000?. I thought that the outside sum.
Mr. Gladstone said he supposed the right hon.
gentleman mentioned 4,000,000?. then in the same
sense as he mentioned 6,000,000?. now. (Hear.)
Again, he wished to point out that their duty in
thatHouse was to consider what was best for the
public, without implying any censure on what the
right hon. gentleman had done. But it was im
possible not to observe the great difference of the
method which was proposed to he observed in that
Bill from the method usually adopted in the com
pulsory acquisition of property for the public good.
The manner in which Parliament proceeded when
it wished to purchase land for the public good
was that the terms of the purchase should be
settled either by law or by arbitration. Now,
neither of these methods was proposed by the pre
sent Bill, but the property of the telegraph com
panies was to be taken on the terms proposed in
the Bill, provided the companies accepted the
terms. Then he must point out, because his hon.
and learned friend who had last spoken had not
been very successful in dealing with this part of
the case, that it was perfectly natural that there
should be a rise in price in the prospect of pur
chase by the Government. But let the difference
in the cases be observed. On the 2d of Jaiiuary,
1868, he presumed the thelegraph companies had
no great knowledge of any proceedings of this
nature.
mere til hans høistærede Yen, Repræsentanten
for London City uden at faa meget alvorlige Be
tænkeligheder ved Sagen, ialfakl i den Grad, at
han maatte spørge, om de, som Folkets Repræ
sentanter, vilde kunne forsvare, dersom man nu
forlangte af dem en endelig Afgjørelse, at betale den
meget høie Pris, som der var foreslaaet at give
for denne Eiendom. Han troede, at 4,000,000 £
var den Sum, Finantsministeren ved en tidligere
Leilighed havde paapeget som den, der sand
synligvis vilde ndfordres.
Finantsministeren. Hvad jeg sagde var dette,
at jeg ikke troede det vilde være i det Offentliges
Interesse, at jeg skulde nævneden nøiagtige Sum,
men jeg troede, at den ikke vilde blive over
4,000,000 £. Jeg holdt dette for det yderste Beløb.
Hr. Gladstone sagde, at han antog, den høist
ærede Herre nævnte 4,000,000 £ dengang i den
samme Betydning, som han nævnte 6,000,000 £ nu.
(Hør.) Han ønskede igjen at fremhæve, at deres
Pligt i dette Hus var at overveie, hvad der var
bedst for Staten, uden at øve nogen Ceusur over,
hvad den høistærede Herre havde gjort. Men det
var umuligt ikke at hemærke den store Forskjel
mellem den Fremgangsmaade, som var foreslaaet
til Anvertdelse i denne Bill, og den Fremgangs
maade, som i Almindelighed anvendes ved tvungen
Erhvervelse af Eiendom til offentligtBedste. Den
Maade, hvorpaa Parliamentet gik frem, naar det
ønskede at kjøbe Land til offentligt Bedste, var
den, at Yilkaarene for Kjøbet skulde bestemmes
enten ved Lov eller ved Voldgift. Nu var ingen
af disse Fremgangsmaader foreslaaet ved nærvæ
rende Bill; men Telegraf-Kompagniernes Eiendom
skulde tages paa de i Billen foreslaaede Betingelser,
saafremt Kompaguierne antog Betingelserne Der
næst maatte han Iremhæve, fordi hans ærede og
lærde Ven, som havde talt sidst, ikke havde været
meget heldig i Bfehandlingen af denne Del af
Sagen, at det var fuldkommen naturligt, at der
vilde blive en Stigen i Pris ved Udsigten til Kjøb
af Regjeringen. Men lad Forskjellen ved Om
stændighederne blive tagen i Betragtning. Den
2den Januar 1868, antog han, vidste Telegraf-
Kompagnierne ikke stor Besked om, at man vilde
skride til noget Saadant.
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